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Murphy Henry

Murphy Henry

Speed, speed, speed! Pretty much everybody wants it and nobody knows how to get it. And hardly anybody believes me when I say “Speed will come.” Oh, ye of little faith!

Here’s the email about speed that sparked this blog. Thanks, Ken, for permission to use it.

You stress "don't worry about speed" and "get out there and jam". My wife and I both have much difficulty getting the metronome over 120 or so cleanly. I can play the usual tunes, such as Foggy Mountain Breakdown, Cripple Creek, Cumberland Gap, Wildwood Flower, Wandering Boy, etc., but despair of getting them to "crackle" like a good picker's play sounds. Do you have any thoughts on putting together a speed training video?

After telling him that, at present we had no thoughts about a speed training video, I asked for more info about his picking situation, including his age. I found out he has played classical, fingerstyle, and flatpicking guitar off and on for 40 years, as well as a little fiddle and piano. “More off than on,” he says. His best experience was playing in four different church guitar groups, mostly as rhythm backup. His wife just turned 74 and he will turn 70 this summer.
Banjo-wise he says,

I've been playing banjo seriously for about three years, but even that has been interrupted by long stints traveling. My wife has been playing for about two years with similar breaks for travel. She has no previous stringed instrument background. We've not included vamping back and forth with each other or with the other woman in our group. I'll start that our next session. That is a great tip.

They have not yet attended the local slow jam, but have been twice to a banjo camp. They do not have a private teacher, but have taken several community education classes from a local professional player. Furthermore he says,

As leader for our little group, I've emphasized clarity over speed (as you state) and all of us can keep a tune going several times with the metronome at about 80 to 100 beats per minute. We also include some time on various rolls, focusing on staying together with a metronome.  I have the sense that skill with tunes at 130 to 140 beats per minutes (I can do this, but the group cannot) should beget a somewhat quicker period of time to reach that pace with each new tune.  We average about 1/2 hour per day, but not every day. (I know...sigh).

Ken, Ken, Ken. I was thinking about you today and this thought came into my mind: “The metronome is not your friend.” (You might want to read my other blog about the dratted metronome!)

Why is the metronome not your friend? Because it tends to make you focus mostly (if not solely) on speed.

And here’s what I imagine most students are thinking. They get into their first (or second or third or fourth) jam situation and they find they can’t keep up. They think it’s because they can’t play fast enough. They think speed is what they need. That if they can just play faster, they can keep up in the jam.

But this, I’ve come to believe, is where they are wrong. It’s not just about speed. It’s about every aspect of the jam situation which includes:


Knowing your chord changes

Knowing how to keep going when you stumble

Knowing how to come back in if you get totally lost

Knowing how to improvise a bit when you get lost (just keep your fingers moving)

Knowing how look up to see if it’s your turn to play

Knowing how to pass the break to someone else by looking up when you get done

And perhaps, most of all, it’s about learning how to “hear” in a jam session when there is so much else going on around you.

When you can do all these things then you will be able to jam. And then it will be possible for speed to come because you won’t have to be worrying about all these other things.

Trying to build speed before you can do these other things is like a toddler trying to run before she can really toddle well! She just can’t do it. And neither can you!

I’m not saying speed isn’t part of the equation. Certainly it is. But nothing is gained—and much is lost—if you try to add speed too early.

Ken, I don’t feel like I’ve really answered your questions because you weren’t asking so much about jamming. But I think that if you start jamming in your little group—trading breaks, vamping, and trying to come back in smoothly—you’ll find that you don’t have time to worry about speed! And paradoxically, speed (at least some speed) will start to develop.

And what about this scenario: what if you had a player who really could play fast. Who could play Foggy Mountain Breakdown as fast as Earl. She could even play it that fast in front of other people. Whoo hoo! But here’s the rub: She could only play her individual songs fast. From beginning to end—fast. But she couldn’t play with other people because she didn’t know her vamp chords, and couldn’t trade breaks with other people. What have you got? In my book, not much of anything. To me, it’s all about playing with other people. And speed is just a minor part of that.

Take Casey’s excellent advice: Tape yourself today. Put the tape away and then listen to it in six months or a year. If you’ve kept up with your banjo playing, I think you will be surprised at how much you’ve improved. And at how much faster you can play!

Murphy Henry

Murphy Henry

The question: I just purchased a metronome and trying to figure how fast Casey and you are playing “Nine Pound Hammer” on Easy Songs for Banjo. In recent jams I seem to speed up and slow down and do not hold a constant beat. I am hopeful that purchasing the metronome will assist. What are your thoughts? Feel free to use this on your blog.  -Drew

Hi Drew,

Thanks for the question. I hope I don't put you off by saying I am not a fan of the metronome. I'm sure it has its usefulness somewhere---I know Lynn Morris used to use one to sharpen her picking skills to a fine point---but for banjo students, especially beginning ones, I don't find them useful. I have never suggested that my students use a metronome. And if they tell me they are using one, I just try to pretend like I didn't hear them!

The timing problems beginning banjo students have are usually related to timing in a way that the metronome cannot address (or fix). Their timing problems tend to be related more to not hearing a lick correctly or not being able to execute it properly or just flat out not understanding how the timing is supposed to sound. (Like that “D” lick in John Hardy, the one that has timing like “In The Mood.” Once you understand that timing in your head, once you can “hear” it in your head, you can play it. Until then, it’s just a series of notes. But the metronome cannot help with that.) Or their timing problems are the result of simply being a new student who doesn’t yet have the small-muscle motor skills to play smoothly or fast.

Sometimes, even with the help of the DVDs, a student will simply get the timing wrong. And easy example is the E minor lick in “Foggy Mountain Breakdown.” Some students have been known to play those eighth notes too fast initially. We can usually straighten that out quickly by me playing along with them and/or playing guitar. But if you’re doing it wrong and don’t know it, that will sure throw you off in a jam!

Without hearing you play, it’s hard to know what the speeding up and slowing down in jams is all about. My guess it’s more likely a result of nervousness, being a new jammer, and/or having rhythm players who are not too solid. And a metronome can't help with that.

My guess is that you probably just need to play each song many, many, times over in a row (without stopping) until you can develop some solidity. And of course there’s nothing like jamming to help you learn to jam. Metronomes cannot help with jamming—that’s a whole different kettle of fish.

Again, I think metronomes are for fine-tuning your timing, something a professional player might want to do. I’ve heard that Ron Block uses a metronome a lot.

And, lest you think this is a case of me telling you one thing and doing another, I confess that I have never used a metronome for more than the few seconds I needed to find out that I didn’t like them. They simply would not stay in time with me!

Hope this helps!

Murphy (Do you think you could get a refund on that metronome??? )